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platona

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2011-02-08 19-05-23

Do you have faith? I've been meaning to post this thread for a while - then the Xtian thread came up, and now LOLCat Bible translation... What's your faith? Do you attend gatherings with other people who have similar faith structures? What gives you faith? Human kindness? Your own personal relationship with your Creator? Have you ever lost your faith? Has it been restored? Grown anew?
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2011-02-09 3-54-45-

faith, as in not giving up hope. I was raised Greek Orthodox. Didn't really go to church regularly until my early teens, then every Sunday till my late teens. Then only for Easter & Christmas, and of course for weddings, baptisms, funerals.... Rarely go since being married for many reasons. Have baptized my in same religion, but have not gone to church regularly with them. My faith is in humanity, in doing good. I do find peace within myself when I go to church, but I rarely go. I do have difficulty with the rigidity of the church rules, therefore, I find quiet moments to talk to "God" myself.
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2011-02-09 4-20-42-

hmmm... interesting you bring this up today. just this morning, as i was flipping through my new *hubble's greatest pictures* magazine that arrived yesterday, and wondering about how big this universe really is, i started thinking about this very question. i grew up going to church and was ostracized as soon as i came out. i had a *family* there that just flipped a switch and pretended i no longer existed, because i was now some mutated thing of the person i USED to be. because they believe so much that the bible says it's wrong. that caused me to actually open that book and read it--from cover to cover. and i just don't get the hype. i have been taught from early on that man is fallible. well, the bible was *translated* by man. supposedly, from the word of god. but still translated by fallible man. to actually base an entire belief system on it makes me very uncomfortable. some of the stories in there portray jesus to be a very angry and totalitarian kind of guy. it really got me thinking... if people put as much *faith* in themselves as they do a doctrine that is logiy fallible, and start owning up for the way that we, as humanity, treat another, if maybe things wouldn't be so hateful and judgemental. don't get me wrong, i'm not *blaming* religion for hatred, but it seems to fuel A LOT of it. and not just toward gay folk. but people of color. people who don't *believe* in their god. someone in the atheism fo said something pretty profound the other day: there are SO many variations on religion out there--who is to say which is the *right* one? i don't know. i can say i get my *faith* from the trials of life and the mistakes that i make and have the opportunity to learn from. i get faith from random acts of kindness and the naivete of ren. i continuously strive to FIND faith in the people, things and situations in my life. in MYSELF, most of all. i have found that if i have faith in myself, the possibilities are limitless. and i don't feel i need a *god* in my life to make me feel fulfilled. i respect those that do, although i can honestly say i don't completely understand. and i continually do what i can to keep myself educated about what i don't understand. sorry if i got a little long winded there. :)
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  • wicks

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    2011-02-10 1-05-31-

    I do blame religion for that actually :-o Not faith, but doctrine.
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  • Maggi

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    2011-02-10 6-47-09-

    I can has faith! I'm with NEpdx, I find the biggest joy and the deepest faith in the simplest things - although sometimes the complex things also do it. Love, kindness, nature, those kinds of simple things... and having faith in myself, and in love, allows me to have faith in the world at large, as hard as it is sometimes with all the shit going on in the world.
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  • parlow

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    2011-02-10 8-39-55-

    Oh, and I stopped going to church as soon as my Mom allowed me to choose whether or not to go. I enjoyed studying religion, but I didn't like church. Whenever I would ask questions in Sunday School, the teacher would blow me off. Music and stained glass windows and ritual, a set way of defining the world and our place in it - I see the allure, but it's not for me. I felt then, as I still feel, that no doctrine, book or building can contain the greater mysteries - and that person can't tell another person how or what to believe. I'm uncomfortable with group-think, and with groups. For me the Bible is an interesting set of creation myths and life rules that has been handed down and translated may times. It's also been used as a weapon. But I feel that way about most religions. Even Buddhists, by many accounts throughout history, have had a part in attempting to eradicate - violently - other religious beliefs. Faith yes, but religion - no thanks.
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    2011-02-10 13-26-04

    I and my other handles faithfully attend services in an accepting Episcopal congregation. Yes those problem verses in the Bible blinded me to who I am for many years. I can not blame that on God, only on the oportunistic misunderstanding of men/culture translating and patriarchy holding power. The tide is turning, even in many evangelical churches thanks to groups like soulforce and Metropolitan Community Churches, links such as "a letter to louise" and more culturally sensitive interpretation of Bible. There are now gatherings of all faith persuaisions acepting of GBLT community. There are places to be inspired by faith, and not bashed by dogma.
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    2011-02-11 6-01-52-

    right now i have faith that my lover who has stage 4 lung cancer will survive. i don't have faith that i will survive if i am wrong.
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    2011-02-11 13-13-23

    That is a true test of faith and sometimes faith is all that gets you through. I hope you are right. I feel for you so much. Hang in there.
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    2011-02-11 14-52-26

    You will. And perhaps she will. Did I already post this? Worth another read. Stephen Jay Gould's essay The Median Isn't the Message. Take care.
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    2011-02-20 18-13-57

    I have to confess I have absolute intolerance for organized religion. I experience curiosity about the divine. I feel awe at some of the things that happen in this life that seem miraculous. I feel peace and joy when sharing spiritual space and energy with others. I pray. If I were forced to define my belief structure I'd have to say that I am polytheistic, and the only God I don't really believe in is the 'one' God. But just someone dare to try to tell me what's 'right' according to religious law and they're going to see my backside walking away. Zero tolerance.
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    marmion

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    2011-02-25 5-12-07-

    ya know, I am trying to find a church to go to I was raised with faith and have largely abandoned it but of recent I have been wanting to find a faith-based community to be part of.
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    2011-03-11 9-28-00-

    I'm so annoyed with myself. There was an open house at the local UU church last night and I completely missed it. I've been thinking about starting to attend services there. I haven't gone to church regularly since I was around 10.
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    I've wanted to go to UU also for a long time.
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    2011-12-14 19-04-33

    is there near you? it seems like my kind of place. I'm pretty spiritual, in my own weird way, but like you, organized religion makes me very nervous.
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    I haven't looked, to be honest probably up in Northampton. I'll make that my mission for the day, find the closest UU.
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    Faith has always been a huge part of my life when I was a very young I thought there was something bad in me, else so much bad wouldn't happen around me. When I went to first grade (Catholic school) and found out about original sin and confession and communion I had hope for the first time in my life. I was convinced that once I had confessed and received communion God would wipe out all the bad and my family could be happy again. I was crushed when I realized that even God couldn't get the bad out of me. That's how this x year old understood all that she was taught. Now I believe that there is/must be some kind of source for all the wonders in the universe. I can't accept that just because I don't understand how there must not be a why. So, I beleive that we all are here for a reason and that we must learn lessons while we are here. Sometimes I think I'm already in hell. Thankfully, more often I feel like I'm already in heaven. A friend of mine says that anyone who drives a car has enormous faith, else they wouldn't put themselves in a tiny bit of metal and hurl themselves at great speeds down roads and amongst other hurtling pieces of metal guided by other people.
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